2025/01/21

How To Get Information like Education Records


Many people struggle to understand how to access information, whether it's their personal data, public authority policies, or school records. Misconceptions abound, with some attempting to use the Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) for personal data requests and others misapplying the Data Protection Act (DPA) to obtain third-party information.

Three key pieces of legislation govern data access in the UK:

  1. The Data Protection Act 2018 (often referred to as GDPR) – Used for obtaining personal data about yourself.

  2. The Freedom of Information Act 2000 – Used for accessing information from public bodies.

  3. The Education (Pupil Information) (England) Regulations 2005 – Used for accessing school records if you hold parental responsibility.

Understanding the correct application of these laws can empower you to obtain the information you are entitled to.

The Data Protection Act (DPA 2018)

The DPA 2018 allows individuals to request their personal data from organisations, companies, or government bodies. However, it does not grant access to information about the organisation itself or other people’s data.

For example, if you are dealing with the Child Maintenance Service (CMS), you must direct your Subject Access Request (SAR) to the DWP Data Protection Team, as CMS is part of the Department for Work and Pensions (DWP). CMS will only provide information about you, not other parties in your case. Any third-party data will be redacted.

Similarly, if you have had dealings with social services, you can request your records, which can be crucial for obtaining meeting notes or defending yourself against accusations. However, accessing information about a child depends on their age. Some local authorities may refuse to disclose information about teenagers without the child’s consent, meaning you may need to obtain it directly from them.

Why This Matters

The DPA 2018 is not just about getting information—it’s also about ensuring accuracy. If incorrect data is held about you, it can lead to serious consequences.

For instance, I once obtained data from my local authority and found information that had been improperly shared by another body. While it was not negative, it should not have been in the council’s records. I requested its removal, but they refused. I then challenged the original body that had shared the data, which resulted in the council being ordered to delete it. Pursuing this further, I demonstrated a data breach, leading to an out-of-court settlement with the organisation responsible.

This highlights how requesting your data can expose errors, leading to correction and, in some cases, compensation.


The Freedom of Information Act (FOIA)

The FOIA applies to public bodies such as councils, government departments, and schools. It is used to request non-personal information, such as policies, procedures, and internal communications.

For example, I once wanted to know what was discussed between my county council and Ofsted after I filed a complaint. The council initially refused my request, claiming the emails contained personal data. However, when I submitted the same request to Ofsted, they provided the emails without issue.

I then challenged the council’s refusal by requesting an internal review, but they upheld their decision. I escalated the matter to the Information Commissioner’s Office (ICO), which ruled in my favour and ordered the council to release the information within 30 days. When they failed to comply, I reported them again, prompting the ICO to issue a legal warning for contempt of court. Only then did the council provide the requested data.

This case demonstrates the power of persistence and knowing your rights under FOIA.

FOIA and Schools

In another case involving my child’s school, I initially requested data under the DPA 2018, but the school refused, stating it was not personal data. I then submitted a FOIA request for the same information, and the school reversed its position, now claiming it was personal data and therefore could not be disclosed under FOIA.

This contradiction forced them to admit their mistake. Schools and other public bodies often misuse data protection laws to withhold information, so understanding the correct legislation can be crucial in challenging their decisions.


The Education (Pupil Information) (England) Regulations 2005

This law is often overlooked but is highly effective for parents seeking access to their child’s school records.

If you hold parental responsibility, you are entitled to receive information about your child’s education, including:

  • School reports

  • Detention records

  • Exclusion notices

In my case, my child’s school failed to provide reports and other vital updates. Their justification? They were informing the mother, and they claimed my child did not consent to share information with me. However, upon further questioning, it became clear that a third party had influenced the school’s decision.

This is a common issue, particularly in cases of parental alienation, where one parent deliberately restricts the other’s access to school information.

The Legal Battle

I knew that unlike the DPA 2018, a child cannot refuse parental access to education records under this law. The government’s own guidance states that schools must provide this data to parents who hold parental responsibility.

The school sought legal advice, spending £4,800 to confirm whether they were obligated to provide the information. The legal verdict? They had no choice but to comply.

I only discovered the cost of their legal consultation due to an unrelated data breach, which a third party informed me about. To verify, I used the FOIA to request details of the school’s legal expenses. Sure enough, the figures matched exactly what I had been told.

Why This Law Matters

Unlike the DPA 2018 (which allows organisations one month to respond) or FOIA (which grants 20 working days), the Education (Pupil Information) Regulations require schools to provide records within 15 school days—a significantly faster timeframe.

If you’re struggling to get information from a school, citing this law can cut through delays and force compliance.


Conclusion

Knowing how to correctly apply these three pieces of legislation can make all the difference when seeking information:

  • DPA 2018 for personal data requests.

  • FOIA for non-personal public authority information.

  • Education Regulations 2005 for accessing school records.

Public bodies often resist disclosure, sometimes through ignorance and sometimes deliberately. Persistence, knowledge, and the right approach can help you obtain the information you need. If an organisation refuses your request, challenge them, escalate to the ICO, and use every legal tool available to enforce your rights.

How to Get Information from the Child Maintenance Service (CMS).
The CMS can only give you your information, they cannot give you information about the other parties to your CMS case. Thats their personal data so CMS will redact it. The CMS are a part of the Department for work and Pensions, so you apply to the DWP, not the CMS. Get your data from the CMS

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  • Legislation: Data Protection Act 2018 (GDPR), Freedom of Information Act (FOIA), Education (Pupil Information) (England) Regulations 2005
  • Information Access: Personal data, information access, obtaining information, data request, school records, emails, policies, procedures
  • Organizations: Child Maintenance Service (CMS), DWP (Department for Work and Pensions), local authority, school, Ofsted, Information Commissioner
  • Legal Concepts: Parental responsibility, consent, data breach, legal advice, contempt of court, redaction
  • Situations: Child maintenance case, social services case, school information, parental alienation
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2025/01/19

Template Letter for Data Breaches

Here is a template letter you can use to complain about data breaches.  I have put this together for a complaint concerning a social worker, but you can adapt the template to suit your need.  If not using for a social worker complaint, you will need to remove the sections about social worker professional standards.


Your Address

The Date

Who the Letter is address to.

Dear XXX

Formal Complaint Unauthorised Disclosure of Sensitive Personal Data.

On the (Insert Date) , (Insert Social Worker Full Name) a professionally registered social worker employed as a social worker by (Insert Council Name) disclosed data that they were not authorised to do. 

In doing so they 

Breached Section 170 (1) (a) Data Protection Act 2018:  Which makes it an offence to knowingly or recklessly disclose personal data without consent.

Breached Social Worker Professional Standard 2.2  Respect and maintain people’s dignity and privacy.

Breached Social Worker Professional Standard 2.6  Treat information about people with sensitivity and handle confidential information in line with the law.

The breach occured because  (XXXX inseert what they did and state that you are harmed because of it.)

With regards to this incident, I wish to make a formal complaint and I also require require:

a)     A copy of your organisation’s data protection policy for the relevant period;

b)     A copy of any risk assessment in place prior to the data breach and any risk assessment in place after the data breach had occurred;

c)     Any relevant notes and documents pertaining to any internal investigation into this incident;

d)     Confirmation that your organisation reported the data breach to the Information Commissioner’s Office (“ICO”) within 72 hours of identifying the data breach; or the minutes of any meeting if you decided not to report the matter.

e)     A copy of any correspondence between your organisation and the ICO relating to this data breach;

I reserve the right to refer the matter to the Information Commissioners Office.


Yours Sincerly


XXXXX



2025/01/10

Communication with the Child Maintenance Service: My Latest FOI Request

Improving Communication with the Child Maintenance Service: My Latest FOI Request


The Child Maintenance Service (CMS) plays a crucial role in ensuring financial support for children, they will say, but navigating its processes can be frustrating, especially when it comes to contacting their call centres. My latest Freedom of Information (FOI) request to the Department for Work and Pensions (DWP) seeks to address one significant issue: identifying the specific landline and geographical  Here's why this matters and how it could benefit individuals relying on their services.


What I Aim to Achieve

  1. Reducing Costs for Overseas Callers
    For people calling the CMS from abroad, the cost of international calls can quickly add up, sometimes reaching several pounds per minute. Long wait times — a common experience when contacting the CMS — exacerbate the financial burden. If geographical landline numbers can be provided, callers may have the option to use more affordable alternatives, such as Voice over IP (VoIP) services, significantly reducing their expenses.

  2. Improved Caller Experience
    Knowing the geographical location of a call centre could help callers achieve better outcomes. For example:

    • Consistency: Calling the same location might increase the chances of speaking to the same person, fostering continuity in discussions.
    • Personal Preference: Some callers may prefer interactions with specific centres. Personally, I’ve had good experiences with the Plymouth call centre, which is located 40 miles from my home, compared to less satisfactory interactions with the Belfast centre. Familiar accents and local conversational cues (like discussing a football derby) can create a more empathetic and positive atmosphere.
  3. Addressing Training and Service Quality
    A recurring complaint among CMS users is the quality of advice provided by triage operators. In some instances, callers have been misinformed — for example, being told not to make payments, only to face penalties later when placed on the Collect and Pay system.
    By identifying the call centre locations, it may be possible to pinpoint specific centres that could benefit from additional training or quality assurance measures. This data could help improve service delivery and prevent unnecessary stress for callers.


Why Transparency Matters

This request is part of a broader effort to ensure the CMS operates as effectively and fairly as possible. Transparency about call centre operations can empower users to make informed decisions about how they contact the service and reduce the frustrations associated with navigating a complex system.


Timeline of Responses

You can request information by email.  As the CMS is a part of teh Department for Work and Pensions, they handle the Freedom of Information Requests.  So first step was an email to them, and then they replied as follows.

The DWP responded within 2 weeks and provided the following information.

Thank you for your Freedom of Information (FoI) request received on 10 January. You wrote:

“Freedom of Information Request Concerning Inbound Communication with the Child

Maintenance Service.

Like many organisations such as banks, the Child Maintenance Service utilise a single

Non Geographical Number 0800 171 2345 in order to manage inbound calls. Calls flow

to different operators and call centres using the number.

I would like to know

1 The address for each call centre location. I beleive they are in Falkirk, Belfast,

Hastings, Wolverhampton, Plymouth. But what street and postcodes.

2 I would also like to know the geographical phone number for each location. Banks

for example publish a geographical number as well as a non geographical number on

debit cards to make it easier for people to call them. What are the geographic numbers

for each call centre.

3, Finally when someone calls the 0800 171 2345 number they usually speak to a

triage operator. Please can you tell me if the triage operators are civil servants or

contracted out staff. If contracted out, which company has the single contract, or are the

arrangements made locally with agencies.”

DWP Response

We confirm that we hold the information you have requested and provide it below in the order

of the questions asked above.

1. The postal address of all Child Maintenance Service (CMS) office locations:

• Parklands, Callendar Boulevard, Falkirk, FK1 1XE

• Pedmore House, Waterfront East, Level Street, Dudley, DY5 1XA

• Crown Building, 60 Wellington Street, Leicester, LE1 6DS

• Tyneview Park, Whitley Road, Newcastle upon Tyne, NE98 1BA

• Havelock Place, Havelock Road, Hastings, TN34 1NB

• Great Western House, Woodside Ferry Approach, Birkenhead, CH41 6DA2

• Clearbrook House, Bickleigh Down Business Park, Plymouth, PL6 7TN

• Great Northern Tower, 17-19 Great Victoria St, Belfast BT2 7AD

2. There are no geographical telephony numbers for any of the individual CMS sites, only

one overarching Non-Geographical Number (NGN) 0800 171 2345 which is the CMS

Main Line.

3. The current telephony resource we have are DWP Civil Servants in GB as well as

Department for Communities NI Civil Servants and Recruitment Agency, The Recruitment

Co., based in Northern Ireland.

If you have any queries about this letter, please contact us quoting the reference number

above.

Yours sincerely,

DWP Central Freedom of Information Team

Department for Work and Pensions



Heres a video concerning the long CMS telephone call waiting times.